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person to debate joe biden over the last five years. >> steve: we continue the conversation on twitter. >> gretchen: have a great weekend. >> steve: see you monday. good morning, everybody. welcome to friday because the vp nominees went to a to toe for 90 minutes man did they come ready to rumble. vice president joe biden looking to reverse his campaign's downward slide. republican nominee paul ryan trying to build on team romney's momentum. that is how it started last night. this morning we end. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to friday edition of "america's newsroom." martha is out. >> i'm jamie colby out for martha they provided points and issues on zingers and economy and debate decorum. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> with regard to social security, we will not, we will not privatize it. if we listened to governor romney and congressman during the bush years, man where all those seniors would be now if there money had been in the market. their ideas

>> sentence. >> that's okay. joe biden with a lot of smiles. and the dentist was the real win. >> we'll break it down. great show. have a great weekend. >> "fox and friends" starts right now. >> gretchen: lots of pearly whites last night. good morning, everyone. today is friday. october 12th. i am gretchen carlson thanks for shared up the day with us. paul ryan has debate advice. >> more people signed up for medicare after the change. >> no body -- i know i know you're under a lot of duress. >> did biden's demeanor cost him the victory . we report and you decide. >> steve: vice-president biden telling us who is to blame for the botched consulate attack. he said the intelligence community and sy. here is a comment that had back scratchers scratching -- fact scratchers scratching their head. >> brian: wait until you hear who won an award. "fox and friends" starsts right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: yeah. the debate just ended. the president of the united states said at the last debate he had with mitt romney he was too polite. joe biden last night didn't have that p

house last night. alex rodriguez or raul ibanez. >> the evidence speaks for itself. "morning joe" starts right now. >> the only way you can find $5 trillion in loopholes is cut the mortgage deduction for middle-class people, cut the health care deduction of middle-class people. take away their ability to get a tax break to send their kids to college. that's why they arrived. >> is he wrong about that? >> he is wrong about that. you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve important references for middle-class taxpayers. >> it isn't mathematically possible. >> it isn't. it's been done before. >> it has never been done before. >> it's been done a couple times. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> okay. good morning. >> i missed that one. >> good morning. welcome to "morning joe." it's friday, october 12th. with us on set, we have the former governor of vermont and former chairman of the democratic national committee, howard dean. and contributor to "newsweek" and the daily beast and former adviser to george w. bush, mark mckinnon. >> wait. no, hold on. what is that, willie

, martha, danville, kentucky, and centre college. i want to thank you, joe. it's been an honor to face you in this debate. we face a big choice. what kind of country will we be? what kind of country will we give our kids? president obama had his chance, made his choices. more spending, more barrowing, government takeover of health care, it's not working. it's failed to create the jobs we need. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans in poverty. this is not what a real recovery lookeds look. mitt romney and i want to earn your support. we're offering real reforms for real recovery for every american. mitt romney experienced, his ideas, solutions, is uniquely qualified to get this job done. we have a job crisis in america, don't we want a job grower in the white house. we want to produce opportunity and jobs. mitt romney and i won't duck the tough issues and blame others for the next four years, we'll take responsibility, and we will not try to replace our founding principles. we will reapply our founding principles. the choice is clear. it rests with you, and we

. that is what this is all about. >> i want to thank you as well, martha. i want to thank you, joe. it has been an honor to engage in the critical debate. we face a very big choice. what kind of country are we going to be? what kind of country are we going to give our kids? president obama had his chance. he made his choices. his economic agenda, more spending, borrowing, higher taxes, a government takeover of health care -- it is not working. it has failed to create the jobs we need. 23 million americans are 23 million americans are looking for work today. this is not what a real recovery looks like. you deserve better. mitt romney and i want to earn your support. we are offering real reforms for a real recovery for every american. mitt romney, his experience, his ideas, his solutions is uniquely qualified to get the job done. at a time we have a jobs crisis until a america, would it not be nice to have a job creator in the white house? the choice is clear. a stagnant economy that promotes more government dependency, or a dynamic growing economy that provides opportunity and jobs. mitt romney

. the skies could not be less alike. joe biden is almost 70 years old. he is a classic, old school liberal politician. paul ryan is 42 years old. he is the new, young gun conservative politician. there is a martian and a moon man. it will be entertaining to watch. i would not just write off that it will have no impact. let's say it is smaller than the last one. palin-biden got a bigger audience in the first obama- mccain debate because people were fascinated by sarah palin. see biden do is go after ryan's record and some of the budget proposals that he has made in the past in the ryan plans and say that is the road romney, not what you are hearing now. he will cut this program, racist attacks. it will be interesting to watch how brian pivots off of that and says no, those were my ideas and those on offense and say your ideas do not work. that is why the economy is the way it is. >> was talk about the senate and the house. the senate is controlled by the democrats. republicans have tried to pick up enough seats to gain control. will the for republicans gain control of the senate? what is>>

approved. >> cenk: welcome to the "the young turks" welcome to "the young turks." yesterday i asked joe biden to bring a lead pipe, but he brought and a blowtorch. >> this is a bunch of malarky: this is a bunch of stuff. >> what do you mean a bunch of stuff. >> it's simply inaccurate. >> cenk: biden laughed at him. that was awesome. has the president learned his lesson on the debate. >> obama: um um, um, and u >> cenk: well, let's hope so. and then the woman who actually took it to the bush and the obama administrations on helping the banks too much and screwing the homeowners. >> if you were sitting in the fdic if you were still chairman, what would you be doing? [ chuckling ] >> well, i would be asking a lot of questions. >> cenk: she's going to be on the show today. and then it turns out right before the debate joe biden sent out a tweet saying it's go time. i hear you joe. apparently before the debate it was joe time. and right now it is joe and go time! [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: all right, we have a great show for you guys today and we're, of course, going to talk about the vice

, centre college. i want to thank you, joe. it's been an honor to engage in this critical debate. we face a very big choice. what kind of country are we going to be? what kind of country are we going to give our kids? president obama, he had his chance. he made his choices. his economic agenda, more spending, more borrowing, higher taxes, a government takeover of health care. it's not working. it's failed to create the jobs we need. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans are in poverty. this is not what a real recovery looks like. you deserve better. mitt romney and i want to earn your support. we're offering real reforms for a real recovery for every american. mitt romney, his experience, his ideas, his solutions is uniquely qualified to get this job done. at a time when we have a jobs crisis in america, wouldn't it be nice to have a job creator in the white house? the choice is clear. a stagnant economy that promotes more government dependency, or a dynamic growing economy that promotes opportunity and jobs? mitt romney and i will not duck the tough issues.

is going to gradually ramp up until it's about a trillion dollars a year. the white house and joe biden would like to introduce that by 10%, the orange section in here. that's the part they want to get rid of. now, their opponents say this part you're getting rid of, that's real care. you are hurting people by taking away benefits. no, it's not. these are reductions and fees, payments that we're making to hospitals and health care programs. in a word this is waste, we can and should get rid of it. but now let's look at the republican pan. the same landscape. same increase up to $1 trillion and would like to reduce it by 10%, but want to rely on private sector, not the government and to do that, they are going to use vouchers. they don't really like that word, but that's what it is in its essence. right now, if you are on medicare, what happens, the government pays medicare. medicare pays the hospital. the hospital takes care of you. under this plan, the government would pay you and you would pay medicare or a private insurance company to take care of you. they believe this will create c

tweet and said you won't find a more tireless fan of the middle class than joe biden. >> a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for themselves. >> how biden reacted is getting some attention this morning. he made it abundantly clear he smiled when he thought ryan was lying. republicans are trying to paint that as smirky mocking. we're back with more after the break. stay with us. use as directed. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...allstate safe driving bonus check? what is that? so weird, right? my agent, tom, said... [ voice of dennis ] ...only allstate sends you a bonus check for every six months you're accident-free... ...but i'm a woman. maybe it's a misprint. does it look like a misprint? ok. what i was trying... [ voice of dennis ] silence. ♪ ♪ ask an allstate agent about the safe driving bonus check. are you in good hands? you've heard stephanie's views. >>no bs, authentic, the real thing. >>now, let's hear yours at the only online forum with a direct line to stephanie miller. >>the only thing that can s

.c., at the vice presidential debate tonight, detrimentally incumbent joe biden faced off against paul ryan, the sex at, stakes were high, the strong performance of mitt romney changed the race, it is now wide open with just 25 days until the election, joe biden and paul ryan competed to take control of the narrative. >> this benghazi issue would be a tragedy in and of itself but unfortunately it is indicative of a broader problem and that's what we are watching on the tv screens is the unravelling of the obama foreign policy, we cannot allow iran to gain a nuclear weapons capability. now, let's take a look at where we have come from. when barack obama was elected, they had enough fissionable ferrill to make one bomb and now they have enough five, they are racing toward a nuclear weapon and four years closer to a nuclear weapons capability. >> war should always be the absolute last resort, these why these crippling sanctions with netanyahu says we should continue if not mistaken romney says we should continue, i may be mistaken, he changed his mind so often i could be wrong, but the fact of

joe biden is in complete denial when he said during the debate last night the white house had no clue the u.s. consulate in benghazi wanted more security before the deadly attack that killed the ambassador. let's get right to our first guest to talk about it. republican congressman mike rogers, chairman of the house select committee on intelligence. mr. rogers, thank you for joining me. let me ask you straight away about your reaction to this issue that's now blowing up pretty big today about what joe biden said about what was known by we, and i use the word we advisedly. let's play first of all what was said by joe biden and by paul ryan in the debate last night. >> this is becoming more troubling by the day. they first blamed the youtube video. now they're trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. >> i was surprised when he said that, because as a viewer, watching, i was like well, hang on a second, i thought the state department had said that they received these warnings.

again because the nats won last night. and also about joe biden's performance last night. that's the big story of the day of course. joe biden did everything last night that president obama did not do in his debate last week. he was cool, confident, cocky, convincing, and paul ryan was flustered all over the place. and every time joe biden smiled you knew paul ryan was lying. first let's with today's current news update. lisa ferguson outin los angeles. >> good morning, everyone. it was the aggressive joe biden, democrats wanted and it was an aggressive joe biden they got. >> it has been done couple of times >> it has never -- >> [ inaudible ] >> oh, now you are john kennedy. it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of americans are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. >> biden was caught smirking smiling, and even laughing through much of the debate. not sure how you could not laugh because of the lies coming from ryan. according to the twitter verse biden's most popular remark of the night was when he asked ryan now you are jack ken

editorial report. all eyes were on kentucky thursday height when vice president joe biden and paul ryan squared off on everything from reform to eye ran to middle class taxes. >> the middle class got knocked on their heels, the great recession crushed them, they need some help now. the last people who need help are 120,000 families for another, another $500 billion tax cut over the next ten years. >> there aren't enough rich people in small businesses to tax to pay for all their spending. and so the next time you hear them say don't worry about it, we will get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watchout, middle class, the tax bill is coming to you. >> joining the panel this week, wall street journal columnist and deputy editor, dan, and jason riley. >> he did energize the base. after last week's debate performance by obama, democrats were concerned. they were worried. i think they were less so after this vice presidential debate, and i think that was joe biden's primary concern, energizing the party again. >> how did he specifically do that. >> he mention add lot of things th

off of his debate performance last week. i think that what joe biden needs to do is blunt that momentum with a sort of a draw or a perceived victory. i think if he loses the debate in the same way that barack obama lost the debate to mitt romney, we'll see the momentum on the republican side pick up. i would say more broadly, andrea, i don't think people usually make their decisions particularly undecided at this point, they don't make their decision on who the vice president is or how they perform in a debate but they do make their decision on the narrative, momentum, what the race looks and feels like and the vice presidential debate as well as the two vice presidential candidates have a patrol play in that narrative. >> and speaking of the state of the race, we've got latest polling today. came out overnight, the nbc news/"wall street journal"/marist polls, talking about ohio, florida and virginia. chuck, going through these numbers, you see that the race has narrowed, ohio still in edge for the president. >> it is. it's funny, one way to look at it you can say this rac

respect to be president of the united states. i think he did what he had to do. i think joe biden did what he had to do. he went out and, you know, delivered the obama message in the way that i'm sure team obama wished that president had the week earlier. and i think you're right, he gave a little bit of a road map about what the president is going to do when he comes out next week. >> that was definitely a front-loaded assault, saw the ding ding ding. one point it was like what's he going to say for the next hour and a half, he said it all there. karen, i thought one of the more -- where he might have drawn blood as far as if biden actually drew blood on romney was his comments around abortion. >> yeah. >> and reminding people something that has not been discussed almost at all in this election cycle which is the supreme court decisions that may be made by the next president. take a listen to what biden said on abortion. >> the next president will get one or two supreme court nominees. that's how close roe v. wade is. >> and we know romney camp is worried about women. they've seen -- >> a

'reilly factor is on. tonight: ♪ it's just emotion that's making over. [ laughter ] >> laura: joe biden laughs and miracles and bullies his way through last night's debate. will that win over undecided voters in the verdict may already be in. >> we weren't told they wanted more security there we did not know. >> i just want to be clear it was never in the presidential daily brief or anything like that? >> i'm not going to sit and talk to you about the details, no i'm not. >> laura: the obama administration is at it again. changing its story over what it knew about security lapses in libya. we will hear from a congressman investigating what went wrong. >> now, i believe that life begins at conception. the policy of a romney administration will be to oppose abortion. >> i accept my church's position on abortion. i just refuse to impose that on others. >> laura: at last night's debate push the democrats war on women claim back to the forefront of the campaign? we will hear from both sides. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone, the factor begins right now. hi, everyone, i'm laura ingra

watched political debates ever. >> hey, can i call you joe? >> tonight in danville, kentucky, it's the rematch. sort of. vice presidential joe biden is back in blue. but in red tonight, it's the young congressman who wants to be known for his budget. >> i'm kind of a numbers guy. >> the poll numbers for romney and ryan soaring after the first presidential debate. democrats openly counting on joe biden tonight to stop that republican momentum. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is arrive. >> the 2012 vice presidential debate starts right now. >>> happy debate night, everybody. the best television series of 2011 was the republican primary debates. there were 1 million of them. they played to huge audiences week after week and never disappointed. now it is october 2012 and the most compelling thing on television anywhere in the country is once again the debates. only now there are only two candidates at a time and the stakes are way higher. i'm rachel maddow. here on our msnbc headquarters in new york. i'm joined by ed schultz, reverend al sharpton, chris hayes, steve sch

is next. we'll see you at 9:00 tomorrow night. >> greta: last week, big bird, this week, laughing joe. twitter on fire with joe biden's smirks, sneers and cackle. the twitter handle at laughing joe biden had more than 7,000 followers take a look at the highlights from the biden-ryan faceoff. >> we will find and bring to justice the men who did this. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge this was a terrorist attack. he went to the un and in his speech he said six times, talk about the you tube video. look. if we're hit by terrorists we're going to call it for what it s a terrorist attack. >> we weren't told they wanted more security there. we did not know. >> there were requests for extra security. those requests were not honored. >> they're pushing continuation of tax cuts giving an additional $500 billion in tax cuts to 120,000 families. and they're holding hostage a middle class tax cut because they say we won't pass and won't continue the middle class tax cut unless you give the tax cut to the super wealthy. it's time they take responsibility. >> do you know what the un

him or not, vice president joe biden is the guy who's got everybody talking. democrats are claiming victory for biden who was feisty and fired up. republicans say his mannerisms were strange. touching off the debate about the debate. >> everybody thought it was a home run. what you saw was the passionate joe biden. i don't think he was over the top. i thought what you saw was joe biden's passion for these issues. he cares deeply about them. he speaks from the heart. that's what you got last night. >> when joe biden continued to interrupt paul and continued to get in his face, i think people were sort of questioning, okay, stop it for a second. let me hear what you're going to do differently, mr. vice president. >> i can't recall a time, frankly, in modern history, where the challenger for the vice president to the vice president bested the vice president in a debate. >> biden came out swinging, even interrupting several times to make his point. >> when we look weak, our adversaries are more willing to test us, they are more brazen in our attacks. >> with all due respect, that is a b

and observations from a zippy 90 minutes with joe biden and paul ryan. >>> they are both pushed to the brink, sadly, only one has survived. >>> a loud explosion on the streets of vallejo as police detonate bomb-making materials. they arrested a man for making bombs in his house. we'll have a live report coming up. >> and good evening, i'm ken bastida. >> i'm dana king. a couple big headlines with baseball and politics, but we want to start with a developing story. anything but an ordinary night in this north bay neighborhood where the bomb squad searched a house looking for explosives and you see what they found, the house is in the 3700 block of georgia street in vallejo. joe vasquez with more on what appears to be a bomb making factory. joe. >> dana, this situation is rattling a lot of nerves, not just because they evacuated an area near this house, but as you saw, also because they have had to detonate some of those materials right here in the middle of the georgia street. >> around 9:00 tonight, a bomb disposal team from the fbi and the solano sheriff department -- they lit a fuse and explo

>>> hi, everyone, on this friday. the news nation is following joe biden's first live event since the big debate, perhaps tossing fuel on the fire, biden said in ken between he is right now in wisconsin. paul ryan's home turf. going into the debate, the marching orders issued by democrats loud and clear, be aggressive and don't let congressman ryan go unchallenged, as the president did in his first debate with romney. >> a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughter ] >> for ryan, the larger mission at least at the first ten-minute mark of the debate was to avoid being steamrolled while defending the controversial stances from governor romney. >> you weren't asked basically why i'm pro life. it's not simply because of my catholic faith. that's a factor of course. it's because of reason and science. >> life begins at conception. that's the church's judgment. >> i refuse to impose it on equally devout chri

the vice presidential candidates, no one had a bad night. nobody was too polite. instead joe biden, paul ryan, simply let it fly and when it was over the american people scored it a draw. cnn/orc poll of debate watchers showed that 48% felt that paul ryan won. 44% said that the vice president joe biden won. of course that would be a statistical tie when you calculate in the margin of error. we begin with cnn's dana bash with some of the highlights of the night. good morning. >> good morning. we were here. we watched it all. you really could feel the intensity of it from the beginning. all 90 minutes. it was very intense. there were some smiles and smirks on both sides. but all in all it was very substantive. these were two men who both came ready to tangle. >> world -- >> thank heavens -- >> reporter: on taxes. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve this important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. >> on medicare. >> they just allo medicare to bargain for the cost of drugs like medicaid can, that would sav

's game down. we're counting down to tonight's one and only vice presidential debate between joe biden and paul ryan. the stakes are high. probably higher than either campaign wants to admit. biden will try to create some momentum for the obama team while ryan will try to prove last week's debate was not a one and done. a small post debate rise for romney, where in virginia romney picked up three points. he leads there, though a doifrnt poll from cbs shows obama still leading there. the "wall street journal" poll, mitt romney trails in florida and is down six in ohio. a quinnipiac poll shows him up three points in three other states. cnn's paul steinhauser is at the site in danville, kentucky with an inside look. >> reporter: 14 hours from now behind me on this stage, the only vice presidential debate in the campaign. they've been behind closed doors getting ready for this big showdown. the republican running mate got here to kentucky yesterday. before he arrived, he played a little bit of the expectations game, kind of lowering the bar for himself. >> joe biden has been on this stage

night, all bets are off. it's way too early. what time is it, willie? >> it's "morning joe." see you monday. time for chuck. >>> substance versus style. vice president joe biden brought the passion and eased the panic from the democratic debate. the smirks, the interruptions, was he too amped up? congressman paul ryan thankfully no mention of big bird but a grover did come up. norquist, that is. and a tight race, could a third guy play spoiler? it's a potential issue and a handful of swing state. we're going to take a deep dive and talk to one of those potential po potential spoilers. good morning again. it's friday, october 12th, 2012. this is the daily rundown. i'm chuck todd. i have ted strickland, ron johnson, congressman from the same party who almost came to blows. that's going to be a little later in the show. let me get to our first reads before i get to the governor who is ready to go. vice president joe biden trying to calm down supporters, still upset over president obama's performance last week went with the kitchen sink approach. congressman paul ryan embraced the do no

to wolf blitzer. "the situation room" begins now. >>> brooke, thanks very much. happening now, joe biden isn't the only one who's smiling today. we're looking ahead to the next round in the presidential debates including what lessons the president might want to take from his running mate's performance. also, fooling iran. we're taking you inside the real life cia thriller in movie theaters right now. >>> i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with today's double declarations of victory after the vice presidential debate. first, the republicans. in a little bit mitt romney teams up with congressman paul ryan in the swing state of ohio. and you're going to see their rally live right here in "the situation room." already today romney's called his running mate's debate performance thoughtful, respectful, steady and poised. our national political correspondent jim acosta has more now on the republican's post debate spin. >> reporter: wolf, even though paul ryan said he saw it coming, republican strategists i talk to in the post debate spin room said they were not expec

. >> that was also where joe biden got the most negative ratings of the entire debate of the undecided voter i was with. why was this so controversial? those voters were wondering why the request for more security was turned down. eric nordstrom was questioned with this very issue on capitol hill this week. >> you were asking for mora mor assets, more personnel, but the danger pay increased. they didn't tell you we didn't have resources, congress just cut your budget. they gave you an increase because the danger was rising. >> that's correct. they gave us an increase. >> when joe biden said we knew nothing about this request for security, who is the we? jay carney cleared that up. >> he was speaking directly for himself and the president, he meant the white house. >> if the president and the vice president, the white house didn't know about the security requests, then who is to blame for the security lapse in libya on september 11th? jay carney again. >> i want to be clear, it was never in the presidential daily brief or anything like that. >> i am not going to sit and talk to you about this.

. round one. the only round, actually, here. joe biden, paul ryan. both have arrived in danville, kentucky, to battle tonight in debate. and the vice president landed just about within the past hour or so. that's his daughter there on his left. by his side, ashley and hunter and bo got officer two, as well. paul ryan flew in to town yesterday for the debate that begins in less than seven hours. keep in mind that is 9:00 eastern time. we have jim acosta on the ground in danville. i want to start with brianna keilar, white house correspondent, in kentucky for us, as well, right now. let's start with the exclusive pictures. the picture you have sort of behind the scenes and see is that the replica of the debate set and seeing joe biden? >> reporter: it's very similar to the debate set that we'll see tonight during the debate here in danville, kentucky. the pictures you are looking at, actually, though are of what's really a second floor ballroom in the wilmington, delaware, shert sherton. you can see how much the biden team tried to duplicate the tea here. >> here we go. >>. >> reporter: the

>>> candidates clash. sparks fly in the vice presidential debate as joe biden and paul ryan trade jabs on taxes, foreign policy and the economy in an often testy encounter. >> lower tax increase growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughter ] >> containing the outbreak. health officials try to locate patients exposed to a deadly form of meningitis. and the firm that supplied the contaminated shots linked to the infection may have been operating illegally. >>> mayor misconduct. an elderly mayor admits to stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from her city but she's not going jail. this is the "cbs morning news" for friday, october 12, 2012. good morning. good to be with you. i'm terrell brown. compared to last week's presidential debate last night's face off between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan was like a shoot out at the ok corral. from the get go it was a pull no punches performance by both candidates. they squared off on everything from th

, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme court, i'm sure they were said last night. it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these guys have a social policy out of the '50s. >> that was joe biden's first major campaign appearance today after last night's big event with paul ryan. now, paul ryan's first public appearance after last night's debate was not that moment on the tarmac with mitt romney with the funny microphone, it was actually this. his campaign did one of those odd way too personal things where they allowed the press in to witness his family doing an otherwise normal family thing. in this case eating breakfast. it quickly becomes an awkward not at all normal interaction bec

was motive? >> joe biden said intelligence, we're all of our people went out and said these things based it on intelligence we were receiving at the time. in other words threw intelligence community under the bus and said top intelligence guys on clapper shop, state and all of the rest of the them this is what they said. and this wasn't our fault. >> and there is testimony in the hearing one member in the state department says night it happened that first heard everything calm at 8:30 p.m. am was door walked outside said goodbye to a turkish diplomat. an explosion at the gate. then they had phone calls to the state department in realtime they're making phone calls state department well aware of what is going on. has there been protests state department would have heard about it. it's -- this is not, they knew it. >> there is one of two explanations. one is utter incompetence in getting intelligence to the people or second thing is deceit. >> greta: you can't be incompetent on this, there is never anything to sort of -- keep your eyes on. >> they did have intelligence and put out a false

. >> stories we're watching in the newsroom, verbal slugfest. joe biden squares off with paul ryan. who won, who lost? this morning we're asking is anyone really changing their vote? >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean a bunch of stuff? >> it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> it is. we irish call it mularkey. >> thanks for the translation. >> verbal fire works between the two vice presidential candidates. this debate had some real horsepower and we've got the lowdown for you. >>> turning to prayers, scores of pakistanis are showing their support for a 14-year-old activist who survived an assassination attempt by the the taliban. now dozens of people have been arrested in the case. >>> moving times, space shuttle "endeavour" begins a two-day, 12-mile trip on the streets of l.a. we're taking you there live. "newsroom" starts right now. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm don lemon in for carol co costello. glad it's friday. i know you were up late, watching the debate. all it needed was a ring announcer, right? prime time slug fest known as the

brother. >> "morning joe" starts right now. >>> that debate, what happened? >> well, governor romney had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> well, it's not the first time i've had a bad night, but i think what's important is that the fundamentals of what this race is about haven't changed. governor romney went to a lot of trouble to try to hide what his positions are because he knows that those ideas have been rejected. they won't work. and if he's making an honest presentation about what he's proposed, he will lose because the american people are not going to go back there. >> good morning. it's thursday, october 11th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have former mccain senior campaign strategist and msnbc political analyst steve schmidt. up bright and early this morning. looking good. >> you look beautiful. >> we also have former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst, i still like financier better. >> i'm going to say financier. >> steve ratner. >> wait a minute. am i not beautiful? >> you're gorgeous. >> like a rainbow, as cyndi lauper would say.

. >> joe biden and paul ryan turn up the heat. trading blows oefrg from foreign policy to jobs and taxes. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. >> romney's a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. >> oecd chief tells cnbc spain's prime minister isn't asking because there's a real fear leaders would possibly say no. >>> and investors hang up on japanese. it may be too costly. >> plus jpmorgan and wells fargo are set to report third quarter results. >>> this is the last trading day of the week here. and we have the i-8 report out that sees pricing easing. they have lowered their growth forecast, though. and it says iran exports hit a new low in september. so there's obviously a bit of a difference between what's going on in the short term forecast and the longer term, as well. so they're looking at annual supply growth of #.5 million barrels a day, average oil demand growth of 1.1 million a day. so over the next five years, sluggish economy will slow oil demand growth and mo

that they knew. that was the assessment. >> that was also what joe biden got the most negative ratings of the entire debate among the undecided voters i was with last night. now, why was this comment so controversial? well, because those voters alreawere still wondering why the request for more security in libya was turned down. a security officer in libya was questioned about that very issue this week. >> you were asking for more assets, more resources, more personnel. that was denied, but the state department went back and reclassified it as more dangerous, the danger pay therefore increased. they didn't sell you the we didn't have resources, congress just cut your budget, they gave you an increase because the danger was rising, correct? >> that's correct. we received a danger pay increase. >> so, when joe biden said we knew nothing about this request for security, who is the we? well, jay carney, the white house spokesman in a white house briefing today cleared that up. >> he was speaking directly for himself and for the president. he meant the white house. >> so, if the president a

. and right now we welcome vice president joe biden, and congressman paul ryan. [ cheers and applause ] >> very nice to see you. >> biden: how are you doing? [ applause ] >> okay. you got your little wave to the families in. that's great. good evening, gentlemen. it really is an honor to be here with both of you. i would like to begin with libya. one month ago tonight on the anniversary of 9/11 ambassador chris stevens and three other brave americans were killed in benghazi. the state department has now made clear there were no protesters there. it was a preplanned assault. wasn't there a massive intelligence failure? >> biden: it was. it was a tragedy martha. chris stevens was one of our best. we lost three other brave americans. i can make two commitments to you and all of the american people tonight. one, we will find and bring to justice the men who did this. and secondly we will get to the bottom of it and wherever the facts lead us we will make clear to the american public. when you are looking pat -- at a president, martha you should look at his most important

if joe biden can turn in a good performance on thursday. >> let's take a look at this, mr. mayor. go ahead, did you want to say something? >> go ahead. >> you can't refight the last fight. last wednesday was last wednesday. we can't debate the debate. let's move on. we have one this week. we have 30 days to go. you know, every day is not a spectacular day for any one of us in these professions that we have. president obama is the same president he was last tuesday, last wednesday, last thursday. moving this country forward, getting people back to work, focused on issues both domestically as well as our international partners around the world. i mean, the speech today by mitt romney about foreign policy was a joke. it has been already panned by so many who actually know what they're talking about. this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics in london and do that right insulting our good friends and our great partner in the uk. so let's talk about the substance of what it takes to run the united states of america, the most powerful country in the world, and not about, you

liner from joe biden became the most tweeted moment of the night. was he channeling lloyd bentsen. >> policy of a romney administration will be to oppose abortion with the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother. >> well, i guess he accepts governor romney's position now because in the past he had has argued that there was rape and forcible rape -- >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. the table is now reset for next week's matchup between the president and governor romney's after last night's combative contest in danville between the running mates. the vice presidential candidates sparred for 90 minutes in a contentious debate that delighted their bases but what is the impact on independent and undecided voters. joining me david gregory moderator of "meet the press" and chris cizilla msnbc contributor and managing editor of post-politics.com. the big night in danville first to you, chris overnight quick reaction polls which we don't rely on because they're on-line polls. >> right. >> but your sense from your blog as to whether this was a win, place or dr

in the first debate and not let biden undercut it. >> geraldo: so you think that joe biden has to do something the president did not. he has to take it to his opponent? >> he is totally going to do that. not to ryan but to romney. if i were biden i would take all 45 minutes of the 90 minutes i have to attack romney both on the record and romney was wrong about the $5 trillion tax cut and doesn't do anything for the unsinced. uninsured. and raise things that obama didn't raise for whatever reason. the 47%. george w. bush was not mentioned in the debate wednesday night. bain capital. it will be a big assault both personal and in policy terms on mitt romney from joe biden. puts paul ryan in a tricky position. he would like to go on the offensive. he is good at prosecuting that record, the debt and obama care and all that but he also has to defend romney and got to lot let biden undercut what romney did on wednesday night. >> geraldo: i read something that you wrote that suggested that romney won by being moral not just matter of fact about the issues of the economy for example. what did you mean?

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